tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.comments2021-07-24T11:16:58.335+10:00Queensland GenealogyJudy Websterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comBlogger155125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-81684564468772542112021-07-24T11:16:58.335+10:002021-07-24T11:16:58.335+10:00You're welcome. Hopefully lots of family histo...You're welcome. Hopefully lots of family historians will now find index entries that were mysteriously missing.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-75618538496562139402021-07-24T11:11:28.650+10:002021-07-24T11:11:28.650+10:00Thanks so much for this notice, Judy... seems I ha...Thanks so much for this notice, Judy... seems I have some more searching to repeat.Crissoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10148084999701286044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-65591912699739825492017-10-10T17:57:56.811+10:002017-10-10T17:57:56.811+10:00Thanks for your comment, John. 90% of the people w...Thanks for your comment, John. 90% of the people who have replied so far (via social media or private email) want one big list of names instead of a separate list for each record type (which is what's currently on the Web site). Anyone who hasn't thoroughly explored all of my 'insanity' Web pages probably doesn't realise that a combined list would have more than 10,000 names. My personal opinion is that users would find that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages, but I will give serious consideration to making the change if that's what people really want.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-92052375294914432982017-10-10T14:28:18.536+10:002017-10-10T14:28:18.536+10:00Hi Judy Instinctively, I would go for names. That ...Hi Judy Instinctively, I would go for names. That should be the one key attribute that a searcher should know. My wife looked for an Aunty - we had the place (sort of as Wolston Park has been known by many names.<br />Having just been on your website, it has a search facility (tho I took a few seconds to find them both); so it really doesn't matter. What is the simplest for coding?John Sparrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17982396423751118567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-44298631070645836502017-08-18T07:40:15.186+10:002017-08-18T07:40:15.186+10:00Hindsight Judy! Is a wonderful thing! Hindsight Judy! Is a wonderful thing! Julie Goucherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368170005503879489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-29342531904905185882017-08-17T18:28:08.133+10:002017-08-17T18:28:08.133+10:00Entirely reasonable to refuse them, I'd have s...Entirely reasonable to refuse them, I'd have said.Cassmob (Pauleen)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18397134336319778519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-83262918596179153872017-08-17T12:28:22.424+10:002017-08-17T12:28:22.424+10:00Jenny, I checked that nobody in the Public Search ...Jenny, I checked that nobody in the Public Search Room had it at that time. Perhaps your staff were using it. They've often told me that they get copying requests from people who find the names on <a href="http://bit.ly/2azlist" rel="nofollow">Findmypast</a>.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-7559330341820066312017-08-17T12:19:16.034+10:002017-08-17T12:19:16.034+10:00Thank you, Jenny.Thank you, Jenny.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-70063701119349379062017-08-17T12:18:09.299+10:002017-08-17T12:18:09.299+10:00Hi Judy, Apparently it's there, under Health o...Hi Judy, Apparently it's there, under Health on the right hand side of the search room. Perhaps it was being used? JennyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932042099226357478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-11734855692239378052017-08-17T12:00:11.061+10:002017-08-17T12:00:11.061+10:00Sorry Judy, I was told that it had not been remove...Sorry Judy, I was told that it had not been removed and I know it is definitely not with the others. I'll look into it and get back to you, JennyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932042099226357478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-18904994778297668502017-08-17T11:55:19.294+10:002017-08-17T11:55:19.294+10:00The Brisbane Hospital index was not in the Search ...The Brisbane Hospital index was not in the Search Room last Thursday. I searched everywhere (all shelves and tables, and in the microfilm room). I would like it to remain in the Search Room, because I want to encourage family historians to use these excellent records. I will just collect the Croydon Hospital indexes, thanks.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-78449357019034340282017-08-17T11:46:42.700+10:002017-08-17T11:46:42.700+10:00Hi Judy, The Brisbane Hospital Index you refer to ...Hi Judy, The Brisbane Hospital Index you refer to above was never removed from the search room and is still there for whomever want to use it. It's the remaining hospital indexes that were removed and of course, will be at reception ready to be returned to you next time you visit. Do you want the Brisbane Hospital index returned as well? JennyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932042099226357478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-5283939148751501642017-08-17T11:07:02.072+10:002017-08-17T11:07:02.072+10:00Jenny, you said, 'If the hard copy index had b...Jenny, you said, '<i>If the hard copy index had been converted to an excel file, we would have used 10% or less of the data in the index...</i> But what possible use could there be for such a file (10% of the total)? None that I can think of - so why were you even considering doing that?! You also said, '<i>Your hospital records indexes have definitely been removed from the Public Search Room as they each contain some records that come under a 100 year closure period.</i> That is not true. If you look at my Brisbane Hospital index, you will see that it is for four sources with dates in 1887, 1900, 1901 and 1902. They are all open to the public. I am glad to know that my index to Old Age Pension Records is now back in the Public Search Room, and that you will not be using it to add to your own indexing work. As you are not able to put my hospital indexes in the Search Room, I would like them to be returned to me, please. I will collect them from Reception on my next trip to the Archives. Thanks.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-79463546015464035342017-08-17T10:29:55.328+10:002017-08-17T10:29:55.328+10:00Hi Judy,
We were sorry to read your account abo...Hi Judy, <br /><br />We were sorry to read your account above and would like to clarify a few things as there appears to have been some miscommunication. Firstly, let me reassure you that your index to Queensland’s Old Age Pension Records has not been digitised and has not been pulled apart. The Archivist on duty was explaining the procedure of what would happen if the hard copy index was to be converted into an excel file. If the hard copy index had been converted to an excel file, we would have used 10% or less of the data in the index as required by the Copyright Act 1968. <br /><br />As you are aware, our volunteers are currently working on a pensions index directly from the original records in our collection to complement our existing pensions indexes which are available online for all Queenslanders to access. Your index to Old Age Pension Records had only been removed from the Public Search Room for evaluation and is back there now. We will not be using this index to add to our own indexing work.<br /><br />Your hospital records indexes have definitely been removed from the Public Search Room as they each contain some records that come under a 100 year closure period and we cannot be in breach of that (this covers anything after 1917). Yes there are some open records in these indexes but we are unable to provide selective access with hardcopies. <br /><br />We greatly appreciate the time and effort that goes into researching and putting together indexes as our own volunteers are busily doing the same for us day in, day out. It is our ambitious goal to put as many Queenslanders as possible in touch with their state collection and, by putting indexes online, we provide access for those living in remote and rural Queensland, as well as those overseas or simply unable to make it to Runcorn.<br /><br />We look forward to seeing you back in the search room soon, Judy. <br /><br />Jenny Kidd, Manager Marketing and Communications, QSA Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01932042099226357478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-21935301689853245832017-08-14T09:50:40.053+10:002017-08-14T09:50:40.053+10:00Thanks for your encouragement, Chris. I really app...Thanks for your encouragement, Chris. I really appreciate it. And I'm glad that I saw you at the <a href="https://genie-leftovers.blogspot.com/2017/08/british-isles-and-german-genealogy.html" rel="nofollow">Genealogy Roadshow</a> - it had been ages since we last bumped into each other.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-51246621051536374952017-08-13T21:51:16.659+10:002017-08-13T21:51:16.659+10:00Judy, sorry to hear that. I'm always in awe of...Judy, sorry to hear that. I'm always in awe of all the indexing you have done over such a long time. You have every right to be upset. I do hope that they haven't pulled your printed copy apart. Your request should have been respected.Crissoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10148084999701286044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-84615884915455518142017-08-13T09:48:11.770+10:002017-08-13T09:48:11.770+10:00Yvette's comment about 'database law' ...Yvette's comment about 'database law' prompted me to download this information leaflet from the Australian Copyright Council website: <a href="http://www.copyright.org.au/acc_prod/ACC/Information_Sheets/Databases__Compilations__Tables___Forms.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.copyright.org.au/acc_prod/ACC/Information_Sheets/Databases__Compilations__Tables___Forms.aspx</a>.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-48366122440000455122017-08-13T09:33:13.763+10:002017-08-13T09:33:13.763+10:00Thanks for your comment, Shirley. If raising this ...Thanks for your comment, Shirley. If raising this issue ultimately helps people like yourself who are working with archival collections, it will all have been worthwhile.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-27856486915603719632017-08-13T08:16:07.546+10:002017-08-13T08:16:07.546+10:00Hi Judy. I have used your indexes in the past and ...Hi Judy. I have used your indexes in the past and appreciate all the work you have done and having indexes online certainly helps those who are not able to get to an archives or library to search the original. You have given me questions to ponder about the Archives usage of such items. I have been working at an archives for the past year and though much of the collection has already been catalogued, we are now in the process of digitising the collection. As there seems to be no specific policy regarding the use of the collection, I will certainly bring this subject up at the next meeting so as to be sure that any such indexes are protected and kept available for public use if management decides to allow public access in the future. Should items be gifted to the archives I will make certain to ask the question - is this on loan and are there any copyright issues with it. Thanks for opening our eyes to such problems,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10830589982802969618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-57581627073404359302017-08-13T06:50:36.250+10:002017-08-13T06:50:36.250+10:00Jacqui, it's such a shame that the situation m...Jacqui, it's such a shame that the situation makes us feel that way. Sometimes it just takes the actions of one person to ruin it for everyone.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-4036356959903741952017-08-13T06:30:59.553+10:002017-08-13T06:30:59.553+10:00Thanks, Yvette. It's always interesting to hea...Thanks, Yvette. It's always interesting to hear how things work in other countries. I totally agree with what you said about the 'ethical aspect'.Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-46972651644610433002017-08-13T05:57:14.956+10:002017-08-13T05:57:14.956+10:00I too am unwilling to donate to archives in the cu...I too am unwilling to donate to archives in the current climate but only to loan Jacqui Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17379807010356268176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-32113878920705576592017-08-12T20:18:07.332+10:002017-08-12T20:18:07.332+10:00In the Netherlands, an index probably would not be...In the Netherlands, an index probably would not be protected by copyright, since two people could independently create the same index so it's not creative enough. The hard work that goes into creating an index might be protected by database law, not copyright law. But apart from the legal aspect, there's also the ethical aspect. If a researcher does not want their index to be turned into electronic format, the recipient of that index has to respect that. Yvette Hoitinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807310204372870735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-27886714259756108512017-08-12T18:37:55.413+10:002017-08-12T18:37:55.413+10:00That's interesting, Julie. I wish I'd thou...That's interesting, Julie. I wish I'd thought of the 'loan' idea way back in the beginning (many years ago).Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7924571061829928094.post-22076959947845182672017-08-12T18:36:37.061+10:002017-08-12T18:36:37.061+10:00Thanks Greg. I gave the index to the Archives, thu...Thanks Greg. I gave the index to the Archives, thus making it 'available', so I can't see any justification for scanning it for other purposes. Correct me if I'm wrong!Judy Websterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730547717403140047noreply@blogger.com